Comments for Tao Of Now http://taonow.wordpress.com ‘The leaves of Time are falling from the trees’, Strephon Kaplan-Williams Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:18:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by Neela http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7012 Neela Sun, 25 May 2008 02:23:14 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7012 A most insightful response given above by Louis Abbott. Most insightful. A most insightful response given above by Louis Abbott.

Most insightful.

]]> Comment on Why Eckhart Tolle by cato http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/why-eckhart-tolle/#comment-7011 cato Thu, 22 May 2008 04:50:35 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/why-eckhart-tolle/#comment-7011 Its recognition. One recognises, identifies with, understands etc. and no amount of verbosity will change that for the person who recognises. Its recognition. One recognises, identifies with, understands etc. and no amount of verbosity will change that for the person who recognises.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by cato http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7010 cato Thu, 22 May 2008 04:05:31 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7010 And the most ............ zillionaire if you want one is D.Chopra. And the most ………… zillionaire if you want one is D.Chopra.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by cato http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7009 cato Thu, 22 May 2008 04:02:44 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7009 Well I guess he should have stayed a recluse then eh? Well I guess he should have stayed a recluse then eh?

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by louis abbott http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7008 louis abbott Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:06:19 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7008 I refer to the Oprah version of enlightenment as "Delightenment." Every thing will work out and you will be rewarded with material gain as a result of your spiritual work. We'll be right back after a word from our corporate sponsor. Let me refer to a specific discussion between Oprah and Tolle. He describes thinking too much as being stuck in a ditch. The more one thinks, the more one sinks. Before he finishes, Oprah cuts in with a colloquial "You just gonna get more mud on ya!" Eckhart agrees but that is not his point at all. You are going to sink, not suffer from dirty clothes. This is the surface mentality that Oprah works on. Eckhart goes along because she is making him a zillionaire. Forget about the idea that the best thing to do when stuck in a ditch is to think about how to get out; abandon the physical and be still. This may or may not include enlightenment, but stop digging. A real bad analogy full of holes and also very shopworn. The best description for the Tolle philosophy in general. I would also be more favorable to this narrative if Tolle included some of his obvious influences: Plato, Teilhard de Chardin and Catholic Mysticism, Jung, Buddhism, Taoism, the obvious anti-Descartes angle and many more. Perhaps he is not encouraged to discuss the great literature in a popular format? By the way, attempting to denigrate another's opinion by offering up your own experience in comparison seems to be using ego as a defense mechanism. So much for enlightenment. I refer to the Oprah version of enlightenment as “Delightenment.” Every thing will work out and you will be rewarded with material gain as a result of your spiritual work. We’ll be right back after a word from our corporate sponsor.
Let me refer to a specific discussion between Oprah and Tolle. He describes thinking too much as being stuck in a ditch. The more one thinks, the more one sinks. Before he finishes, Oprah cuts in with a colloquial “You just gonna get more mud on ya!” Eckhart agrees but that is not his point at all. You are going to sink, not suffer from dirty clothes. This is the surface mentality that Oprah works on. Eckhart goes along because she is making him a zillionaire.
Forget about the idea that the best thing to do when stuck in a ditch is to think about how to get out; abandon the physical and be still. This may or may not include enlightenment, but stop digging. A real bad analogy full of holes and also very shopworn. The best description for the Tolle philosophy in general.
I would also be more favorable to this narrative if Tolle included some of his obvious influences: Plato, Teilhard de Chardin and Catholic Mysticism, Jung, Buddhism, Taoism, the obvious anti-Descartes angle and many more. Perhaps he is not encouraged to discuss the great literature in a popular format?

By the way, attempting to denigrate another’s opinion by offering up your own experience in comparison seems to be using ego as a defense mechanism. So much for enlightenment.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by E http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7006 E Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:18:08 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7006 "as long as you keep your mind involved, you’re fools!!!" Who said that? Was it not your mind? Where you not using your mind to formulate those "thoughts"? Had you not had your mind you would have never come across the idea of enlightenment. You wouldn't have the equipment to do that. All you enlightened beings out there, didn't the idea and the first steps begin with thought and the discovery of no mind as a counterpoint to mind? Anyone searching will inextricably use the mind, and anyone who has found it will USE his or her mind to formulate words and help in liberating others, not being abusive. I think that Eckhart Tolle is bit new age but he has a comprehensive way to describe what is fundamentally Buddhist ideas. I recommend reading him but not taking words like "inner vibrational frequencies", "divine" and such obscure phrases too seriously. Enlightenment seems like art, everyone has their own idea of what it is, and few understand each other fully. “as long as you keep your mind involved, you’re fools!!!”

Who said that? Was it not your mind? Where you not using your mind to formulate those “thoughts”? Had you not had your mind you would have never come across the idea of enlightenment. You wouldn’t have the equipment to do that. All you enlightened beings out there, didn’t the idea and the first steps begin with thought and the discovery of no mind as a counterpoint to mind? Anyone searching will inextricably use the mind, and anyone who has found it will USE his or her mind to formulate words and help in liberating others, not being abusive. I think that Eckhart Tolle is bit new age but he has a comprehensive way to describe what is fundamentally Buddhist ideas. I recommend reading him but not taking words like “inner vibrational frequencies”, “divine” and such obscure phrases too seriously.

Enlightenment seems like art, everyone has their own idea of what it is, and few understand each other fully.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by george stegler http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7005 george stegler Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:38:20 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7005 Enlightenment: that is a state where a person can, at any time, lose one's own mind and be the every thingness and nothingness , to become "GOD", one's true nature, to be out of mind. That's all an enlightened person is, a rare gift at that. There are more people who can on rare occasion have brief glimpses of their true nature, and that happens with meditation, lots of meditation at that. So, all of you who want to 'think' themselves to bliss, it's your time, your life. You can bark up the wrong tree as much as you like and delude yourselves in to "thinking" that you are blissful, as long as you keep your mind involved, you're fools!!! Lose it baby, Chris is right, a mind is the ONLY thing to lose!. Enlightenment: that is a state where a person can, at any time, lose one’s own mind and be the every thingness and nothingness , to become “GOD”, one’s true nature, to be out of mind. That’s all an enlightened person is, a rare gift at that. There are more people who can on rare occasion have brief glimpses of their true nature, and that happens with meditation, lots of meditation at that. So, all of you who want to ‘think’ themselves to bliss, it’s your time, your life. You can bark up the wrong tree as much as you like and delude yourselves in to “thinking” that you are blissful, as long as you keep your mind involved, you’re fools!!! Lose it baby, Chris is right, a mind is the ONLY thing to lose!.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by Chris Williamson http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7004 Chris Williamson Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:23:27 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7004 The more one thinks the further you are from your true self. Your true self is not physical, or of thoughts. You are everything or no-thing, both are the same. We are consciousness, everything-ness, form-less. There is only one consciousness, it is in and of everything, be it an atom or a star in the sky, plant, animal or human. That is GOD, we are GOD. Clear thinking or chaotic thinking is much like the thin film of a bubble or clouds in the sky, once it disappears YOU are there. You are there- EVERYWHERE and NOWHERE!!! A mind is the only thing to lose!! The more one thinks the further you are from your true self. Your true self is not physical, or of thoughts. You are everything or no-thing, both are the same. We are consciousness, everything-ness, form-less. There is only one consciousness, it is in and of everything, be it an atom or a star in the sky, plant, animal or human. That is GOD, we are GOD. Clear thinking or chaotic thinking is much like the thin film of a bubble or clouds in the sky, once it disappears YOU are there. You are there- EVERYWHERE and NOWHERE!!! A mind is the only thing to lose!!

]]> Comment on Why Eckhart Tolle by Maxx12 http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/why-eckhart-tolle/#comment-7003 Maxx12 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:25:19 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/25/why-eckhart-tolle/#comment-7003 Why do people spend their free time trying to convince others their opinion? Why not just put your opinion out there or your facts and let people asborb things on their own time in their own way. The time you spent debating Tolle's theories against your own is time that could have been spent practicing and focusing on what you already believe. Is there anything negative about what he says? Is it designed to harm people or to affect their lives in a positive way or a negative way? Why do people make something negative out of something positive? Because they'd rather be right than at peace. Why do people spend their free time trying to convince others their opinion? Why not just put your opinion out there or your facts and let people asborb things on their own time in their own way. The time you spent debating Tolle’s theories against your own is time that could have been spent practicing and focusing on what you already believe. Is there anything negative about what he says? Is it designed to harm people or to affect their lives in a positive way or a negative way? Why do people make something negative out of something positive? Because they’d rather be right than at peace.

]]> Comment on Eckhart Tolle Enlightenment by E http://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7002 E Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:34:45 +0000 https://taonow.wordpress.com/2006/06/27/eckhart-tolle-enlightenment/#comment-7002 Have you ever tried to hunt for the present moment? you get there you think but then you realize you didn't but the closer you get the more presence you experience. If there is time, there is past and future. But then, what is the now? The infinitely small or non-existent "gap" between present and future? What Tolle gave to me was a sense of no time. If the concept of time is something evolutionary evolved in us, for us to be able to sort out our experiences then we could learn to abandon it. We could experience our place as only space. The clock is ticking because it does, why make the series of events into a line on which we and everything glide along. Yeah, don't bother, I know why but try this image and at least the sense of presence in "the now" will emerge. Your lover will appear more real, and the food will have a taste instead of being a memory of taste. Peace: "Tolle speaks of Religion being dogmatic. But what he speaks is a belif & a practice as well. Religion=a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:" Isn't that the case of all western or any other society? Is democracy a religion? Using a dictionary to make anyone wrong without going further in reasoning is easy. Tolle gave me one hint in life. So did a lot of people, and some of you guys, I don't care about the word "enlightenment". Do you? It's just a word! PS: Sorry for my language, I'm not a native English speaker. Have you ever tried to hunt for the present moment? you get there you think but then you realize you didn’t but the closer you get the more presence you experience. If there is time, there is past and future. But then, what is the now? The infinitely small or non-existent “gap” between present and future? What Tolle gave to me was a sense of no time. If the concept of time is something evolutionary evolved in us, for us to be able to sort out our experiences then we could learn to abandon it. We could experience our place as only space. The clock is ticking because it does, why make the series of events into a line on which we and everything glide along. Yeah, don’t bother, I know why but try this image and at least the sense of presence in “the now” will emerge. Your lover will appear more real, and the food will have a taste instead of being a memory of taste.

Peace: “Tolle speaks of Religion being dogmatic. But what he speaks is a belif & a practice as well. Religion=a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects:” Isn’t that the case of all western or any other society? Is democracy a religion? Using a dictionary to make anyone wrong without going further in reasoning is easy.

Tolle gave me one hint in life. So did a lot of people, and some of you guys, I don’t care about the word “enlightenment”. Do you? It’s just a word!

PS: Sorry for my language, I’m not a native English speaker.

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